The legal issue is a problem for determinists, as I see it, the exception seems to make the rule. If a person has an ailment that causes him/her to act violently or in some manner extra-legally isn’t the fact that it’s an anomaly reason to treat as such philosophically? And what of law itself, isn’t it’s purpose to proscribe behavior that’s contrary to social norms? It appears to me the determinist claims are normative claims and that acting outside the law is the equivalent of some kind of mental breakdown. How would determinists deal with civil disobedience or conscientious objection?

Harris describes law and justice, even retributive justice, as still having a place if it is known empirically, statistically, to alter behavior.

But the question of civil disobedience is a good one: If we treat deviants as ill, would we accidentally wind up suppressing valid social change?

I’m not sure how worried to be about that though: the most readily available advice to derive from these ideas on free will would be to simply stop treating drug addicts with jail time and to take responsibility for the social factors that lead people to break into houses, cars, murder, etc. All of this sounds like a society maturing to me.

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